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#1 Sally

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:46 PM

So I've been mia for a bit because I was in Europe for a study abroad class. We got to go to schools in a couple contries to compare education there to here. I was just wondering if any of you saw the same things I did when there for a trip or if you live there. In Paris, I saw condom machines in metro stops--only 2 euro! And in a middle school bathroom in Luxembourg there was a condom machine--"dont die for love" (it was for AIDS prevention). I ended up in the sex district in Paris because we wanted to see Moulin Rouge and Sacre Couer (Sacred Heart church) and every other store was a sex shop or trashy lingerie store or a 'club'. Needless to say I was scared :P In Switzerland, kids (8th graders) learned about sex ed in a biology class--they dont have health class---and they weren't as awkward/obnoxious as I remember in my 8th grade health class. What have you all seen there? Did you feel like sexuality was more open there than in the U.S.? Just curious!

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:28 PM

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My memories are lil fuzzy since i went when i was 13 but I remember very clearly in France and Italy things being pretty open sexually. France has the nude beaches and the theaters had these really raunchy movies available to view, also it just seemed like French people were more sexual, just a vibe but then again I was only 13
Italy just had all the artwork everywhere so it wasn't that bad...i guess

Oh and goodness we drove through Amsterdam one day...the chaperones made everyone pull the window covers down and cover our eyes lol

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:08 AM

The European culture is very open about sex. Far more so than the Western culture, I believe. The US makes sex such a big thing, but I still think it is a pretty prudish country due to the extreme slut-shaming and the fact that people are not nearly as open-minded about sex as the media would have us believe. Same goes for Canada - there is such a hype about sex yet it is still seen as such a taboo thing among teens and females get slut-shamed a lot. In the European culture, I think slut-shaming is not a big thing and virginity rates are much lower.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 04:11 PM

Absolutely. Europe on the whole is MUCH more decadent than the United States, sadly.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:31 PM

America was founded by Puritans so that about says it all.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:09 AM

This is interesting because I too, was MIA for a few weeks because I was also in Europe. (Probably at the same time as you, Sally! Wouldn't that have been neat if we crossed paths and didn't even realize?)

The culture is MUCH different. They are much more open about sex, sex is just everywhere over there. Sex is way too taboo in North America and I'm not saying we should have sex stores everywhere, but just less of a taboo over even talking about it. I found that I always had legitimate questions to ask with no one to really turn to because no one really discusses things like that. Also, I saw that most young people enter relationships younger rather than older and from what I know, the majority of young people are sexually active. But they have such a different attitude towards it then we do over here in North America.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:25 AM

Well, I also agree that Europe has different standards about sex than North America. Spain also has nude beaches, and raunchy films. Also, I remember seeing love hotels in Japan.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:25 PM

Wow, being from England (which is technically Europe I think) I thought that America had far more of a sexual cultur than us lot across the pond in Europe... I think that opinion probably comes from watching mostly American soaps/comedies where having sex in a relationship is just the norm. But I think it's probably true about people about people over here being sexually active at a younger age and entering relationships younger

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:31 PM

Wow, being from England (which is technically Europe I think) I thought that America had far more of a sexual cultur than us lot across the pond in Europe... I think that opinion probably comes from watching mostly American soaps/comedies where having sex in a relationship is just the norm. But I think it's probably true about people about people over here being sexually active at a younger age and entering relationships younger


Well, considering how many British waiters we have on this forum, I think it might be better in the British Isles than in the rest of Europe.

Maybe this is an Anglophone thing?

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 11:48 AM

Well, considering how many British waiters we have on this forum, I think it might be better in the British Isles than in the rest of Europe.

Maybe this is an Anglophone thing?


I agree, I think the UK and Ireland are probably a lot more conservative than mainland Europeans. Well not that people dont have sex before marriage, they do! But I think the whole slut thing/double standards is pretty much in line with what it is in America. I dont think that is as big a deal in mainland Europe as it is here. But then I have read that adultery/extra-marital affairs is more or less commonplace and acceptable in France (but that could be a stereotype, Im not an expert)

You wont find any nude beaches or red light district where I'm from!! :D

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 03:17 PM

Wow, being from England (which is technically Europe I think) I thought that America had far more of a sexual cultur than us lot across the pond in Europe... I think that opinion probably comes from watching mostly American soaps/comedies where having sex in a relationship is just the norm. But I think it's probably true about people about people over here being sexually active at a younger age and entering relationships younger


I find that very interesting!! Although based on some of our movies and tv shows that make it over there I'm not surprised. But most of the US is much more conservative than mainland Europe (thankfully in my opinion lol! That very open culture would make me extremely uncomfortable!)

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:35 PM

While I was in germany there were kids younger than me 18,19 who were already living with their gfs and etc..... That was a shocker to me. I also have to agree that europe is also more open on the topic of sex and etc. However I remember most of the guys my age asking me if college life was awesome. I obviously didnt have the heart to tell them I was "wtm" exspecially when they think that most college kids just have sex and party, and I had just gotten there and didnt want to alienate myself and seem wierd.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:10 PM

Also, prostitution is legal in many parts of Europe. I think Amsterdam is famous for their Red Light District. But I agree that among developed countries, the US is pretty conservative in comparison. Or maybe it's because we're just a polarized country.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:51 PM

One of the worst things for me is the age of consent issue. 15 in France, 14 in Italy, 13 in Spain...what the hell are they thinking?! Am I the only one who thinks that 16 is probably too low?

I remember one of my friends when she was 14 telling us how there was this creepy old man who kept offering to buy her drinks and stuff while she was on holiday in Spain. I remember when she asked, "I guess I must look a lot older, right?" I had to explain to her, "Em...no, I think he knew you were that young..." Creepy...

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:42 PM

One of the worst things for me is the age of consent issue. 15 in France, 14 in Italy, 13 in Spain...what the hell are they thinking?! Am I the only one who thinks that 16 is probably too low?


Honestly, it depends on whether it's a male or female. See, on a biological standpoint, women mature faster than men do. At age 16, a female has pretty much reached the peak of physical development. There is really not a whole lot of growing left for a female at that point if at all. But a male typically does not reach full physical maturity until age 18 before he stops growing. Physical maturity is pretty consistent across gender lines. Mental maturity is greatly varied depending on the individual and culture. So to me it makes more sense to impose an age of consent based on physical maturity. 16 for girls, 18 for guys. But that's just hypothetical, I'm not sure I'd actually support such a rule.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 11:05 PM

Also, prostitution is legal in many parts of Europe. I think Amsterdam is famous for their Red Light District. But I agree that among developed countries, the US is pretty conservative in comparison. Or maybe it's because we're just a polarized country.


I just can't believe that Is legal. It disgusts me! I read a memoir by Somaly Mam which was absolutely amazing. She was sold into sex slavery and was able to get out and start a home for helping women out of it. One of the best books I've ever read! Id highly recommend it!

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:06 AM

I just can't believe that Is legal. It disgusts me! I read a memoir by Somaly Mam which was absolutely amazing. She was sold into sex slavery and was able to get out and start a home for helping women out of it. One of the best books I've ever read! Id highly recommend it!


I'd be interested in reading this memoir. What's the name of it?

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#18 WakeUp&BeAwesome

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:15 PM

This thread is really interesting! I´m from Europe and to me it´s really interesting how you perceive or experienced the European culture on sex (if you were there).

It´s so funny though: I always thought, that North America is very open about sex, because of all the movies, music etc. that we also get to see or hear here. But apparently that´s definitely not the case and my time on this site here pretty much confirmed it.

I can´t help it, but I think it´s so funny, when you guys are shocked about condom machines, sex shops, sex education classes and so on.... I don´t mean it in a "making fun of you"-way AT ALL! It´s just interesting to me. For the longest time, I only knew America from the media and it always seemed so open and blunt about sex. And then I find out, that this is apparently totally not the case in real life. I just think it´s a little bit funny, when some people freak out about all this ( and I don´t mean necessarily the people on this site. Just in general from what you can read on the internet...comments under videos or articles for example). Probably, because it is so normal to me to see all these things. I don´t know it any other way.

But I guess, just as you American folks are shocked by Europe, Europeans can also be very shocked by North America, but of course in a different way.

A friend of mine, for example, spent a year in the USA and the family (where he lived) couldn´t understand why he wasn´t married to his girlfriend yet, because they were already for several years in a relationship. When he mentioned that he might move in with her after his time in the USA, they were really shocked (because there was no talk about getting married, of course). But that´s just an example...probably depends on the region someone´s living in.

 

Spending some time on this site by now, it really does feel like we live in different worlds with diffferent circumstances, when it comes to the world of sex. I think, it´s sort of sad. There are definitely times, when I´m not happy at all about all this sex here everywhere. Sometimes I wonder, how different I would be in my views about sex, if I had grown up in North America.

Don´t know, if anybody read my post in the "WTM in your Country" thread. I´m sorry, when it was disturbing and shocking (these sentiments were already mentioned, so I guess, it really was disturbing for (some of) you) or grossed you out.  I just told the truth. Maybe I´ll delete it again.

Well, I´m glad that I found this site, although Europeans are very very, very rare on here (and always seem to disappear after a while on this site). To be honest, I still feel very alone in WTM, because you guys are all so far far far away. Maybe I should switch countries :P

I try to stay strong in WTM, but it is definitely not an easy task here. But on the other hand: I guess, it´s never an easy task, no matter where you live.

 

So are you guys happy with your sex culture as it is? Are there things you´d like to see changing?

 

Oh and have you guys really never seen a condom machine in real life (assumed you never went to Europe before)? Are there really no condom machines, where you live? 

Just asking out of curiosity. Like I said, to me the differences in "sex culture" are very interesting!

Found this article 

http://www.huffingto..._n_2735647.html

 

Have to say, that even where I live, I´ve never seen condom machines in cabs or taxis. It wouldn´t suprise me, but I have never seen it before. So let´s see if this idea becomes reality....


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#19 Mstr Josh

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:48 PM

I'm fairly liberal about sex in general, if a lot of the US wouldn't treat sex as some dirty, horrible, disgusting act, try to make anyone who has sex seem a whore, and try to keep sex education out of the schools, then I'd be happy with my countries view on sex.

Europe on the other hand... I don't agree with prostitution at all, but there's prostitution loop holes in the US, escort services for example.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:56 AM

 

 

Oh and have you guys really never seen a condom machine in real life (assumed you never went to Europe before)? Are there really no condom machines, where you live? 

Just asking out of curiosity. Like I said, to me the differences in "sex culture" are very interesting!

Found this article 

http://www.huffingto..._n_2735647.html

 

 

Actually, yes, I have seen them around in gas stations and public restroom, just not in schools since you should be more focused on studying and whatnot than sex. However, you usually can get them from the nurse that has a basket, I heard that students in the University of Michigan, a school in my state, are allowed up to 7 free condoms A DAY. I find that a bit overkill, unless that is how much sex they get a day which since it is a really hard school, how do they balance that sex life with studying? Seven times a day is quite excessive by most people's standards. 






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