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is masturbation a sin?

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Is masterbation a sin? You need to ask yourself that.

Growing up, my mum taught my siblings and I that we will come across may things. Some people will say this is a sin and others will say it is ok. It all comes down to is do YOU believe it is a sin? If so, the it is a sin to YOU, so you should not do it. There is a difference between believing what you are doing is or is not a sin, and justifing something to your self. Also you have to research it yourself to make an informed decision, once you do that then make your choice.

Now if you are asking me personally what I think about masterbation, I believe it is a sin for me. When I think about Jesus, who is sinless "would He masterbate?" I believe that would be a no. The way I want to live my life is the honor Jesus and try to be more like Him everyday. God says to protect our hearts and be blameless and pure and that is what the most wonderful thing is, if we make mistakes, we will be forgiving and can start a new ^_^

So make YOUR choice, is masterbation a sin to you?

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I believe it is. I don't think one can separate lust from masturbation. And Christians are called to flee sexual immorality. Sexual thoughts are hard enough to control so why add a physical component...

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As far as Matthew 5:28 is concerned my current understanding is that it relates to the intention of an act even if it isn't fullfilled. As (at least here in Australia) an attempted murder can be punished to the same extent as a completed murder.

 

I don't believe in different levels or a hierarchy of sins. It either is or isn't. Certainly while the mortal consequences are different - it takes a lot more 'evil' to willfully murder than to speak a white lie and the consequences can be very different - the moral penalty is the same (Romans 6:23). 

 

As for masturbation, what has been taught me by my father over time has been contradictory/changing as has been my own beliefs on the issue. Church doctrine has been largely unsatisfactory and quite unaddressed (I remember one speaker pushing the idea that sex=being married, which would clearly do away with the clear sin of premarital sex unless he saw masturbation as being premarital sex). For now I don't see masturbation in itself sin (overmasturbation, YES) but is it beneficial, no (except perhaps in the narrow category of providing relief from sexual torment - trick is keeping it within that confine!). When combined with pornography is it actively harmful, YES, is it spiritually enriching, no, is it sin? Not entirely sure, but I'm leaning towards no though it certainly is a precursor/temptor to sinning. Same as hanging out with a criminal street gang or in a brothel creates an environment where it is much easier to sin. Are there benefits to abstaining from masturbation? YES!

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Now if you are asking me personally what I think about masterbation, I believe it is a sin for me. When I think about Jesus, who is sinless "would He masterbate?" I believe that would be a no. 

 

Sorry to take this on a tangent, but would Jesus marry? I've never been clear on that. 

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Sorry to take this on a tangent, but would Jesus marry? I've never been clear on that. 

 

Did He marry? No.

 

Could He have married a human wife while on earth? Theoretically, He's fully human as well as fully divine, so I guess it was technically possible in a way, but it would get into some extremely weird territory. Human marriage, being sexual, is limited to two people, and He couldn't exactly pick a favourite human woman. Plus, even if His divine nature wasn't passed on to His children, that's going to lead to His descendants being a whole new family of chosen people separate from the rest of humanity. Plus, He was leaving to ascend to Heaven again less than two months after His resurrection, and that'd be pretty cruel to leave His wife and child behind. Plus, besides being human, He is divine, too, and for a divine being to have a sexual relationship with a human being would be a very unequal situation.

 

Plus, most importantly of all, Jesus already has a bride. The Bible's very clear that the Church is His Bride. Human marriage is a symbol of that, with every husband and wife being a symbol of Christ and the Church. If Jesus entered into a human marriage, too, then He's got two brides, one natural and one supernatural, and Jesus isn't an adulterer.

 

In case anyone's interested, the big wedding of divinity to humanity is scheduled for the end of the world, if you'd like to say 'I do' (preview of rest of vows available in Song of Solomon). Wedding gowns are available via water baptism (if you get them dirty in the meantime, there are dry-cleaning services available at Catholic and Orthodox churches). Also, please remember that these wedding gowns are spiritual, and therefore regular physical clothes should still be worn in public.

 

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Did He marry? No.

 

Could He have married a human wife while on earth? Theoretically, He's fully human as well as fully divine, so I guess it was technically possible in a way, but it would get into some extremely weird territory. Human marriage, being sexual, is limited to two people, and He couldn't exactly pick a favourite human woman. Plus, even if His divine nature wasn't passed on to His children, that's going to lead to His descendants being a whole new family of chosen people separate from the rest of humanity. Plus, He was leaving to ascend to Heaven again less than two months after His resurrection, and that'd be pretty cruel to leave His wife and child behind. Plus, besides being human, He is divine, too, and for a divine being to have a sexual relationship with a human being would be a very unequal situation.

 

That's actually pretty interesting. I never thought about Jesus technically being able to marry and have sex if he'd wished. My only thoughts in response to Mirage's question were some pretty irreverent jokes :P

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Sorry to take this on a tangent, but would Jesus marry? I've never been clear on that. 

 

You have a very valid point, like I said that is just a way I looked at masterbation, and didn't mean that this is what everyone needs to think or look at it. Just my opinion for myself :) Marriage is a good thing though( even if Jesus did not marry.) God made it a way for humans to have fellowship in a partner that completes them and become one and raise a family :) My opinion again

Thank-you for pointing that out Mirage :)

Sorry if anyone misinterpreted what I wrote.

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That's actually pretty interesting. I never thought about Jesus technically being able to marry and have sex if he'd wished. My only thoughts in response to Mirage's question were some pretty irreverent jokes :P

 

Yeah. It's also worth noting that since Jesus is fully God AND fully man, it is not unreasonable to deduce that He probably experienced sexual desire as part of his human nature. But He wouldn't be sinning because sexual desire is not the same thing as lust, which is a sin. It is interesting to think that He probably desired sex just like any other guy. lol

 

 

Plus, most importantly of all, Jesus already has a bride. The Bible's very clear that the Church is His Bride. Human marriage is a symbol of that, with every husband and wife being a symbol of Christ and the Church. If Jesus entered into a human marriage, too, then He's got two brides, one natural and one supernatural, and Jesus isn't an adulterer.

 

Yes I agree. In the same way, Jesus is already the head of the Church both in heaven and earth. So there is no need for a second head of the Church on earth ;)

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Yes I agree. In the same way, Jesus is already the head of the Church both in heaven and earth. So there is no need for a second head of the Church on earth ;)

 

Oh, of course. There's only one King. He's away on official royal business right now, unfortunately, but He's left the Prime Minister with His keys, in case something should come up in the meantime.  ;) (I love you, Vince!)

 

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Also, please remember that these wedding gowns are spiritual, and therefore regular physical clothes should still be worn in public.

 

So that's what I've been doing wrong all these years... :P

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I'm a Christian and would say it is not as sin.

 

I believe you can masturbate without having immoral thoughts, certainly. Also, there is a difference between masturbating because you are enjoying your own body versus being addicted to it and not being able to live without it.

 

I believe God gave us these bodies to also enjoy and as long as you don't watch porn or something like that while doing it, I believe it's fine. 

 

Also, I'd rather not argue with the other people on here, so *case closed* *flies away*

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I personally feel like this topic goes along with: How far is too far in a relationship. I realize the specific act can be done alone but is the question here because you want other people's approval? Instead of asking is this wrong or how far is too far why aren't we asking how pure can I be?

 

Also in the Bible it says that the act of pleasure of one's body is under the control of the spouse. So self pleasure seems wrong according to that. It's like cheating on your future husband. This is I Corinthians 7:4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.

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Typically if you have to ask it, it is a sin. The saying is "if in doubt, there is no doubt". If you are having doubts if something is a sin then it most likely is. That's like asking if doing other things farther than kissing is a sin outside of marriage. People continue to ask that question because God didn't specifically say how far we can go outside of marriage in the Bible but we really do know, we just don't want to admit it. God didn't say porn was a sin either but come on now, we all know it is. The people trying to say it's not a sin on here are just mad because for some of them it's the only way they have kept themselves pure all these years which in reality is so wrong. And just for the record you can't masturbate without lusting. You are literally convincing your brain you are having sex. How do you do that without thinking about other people? Please explain this lol.

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There's nothing wrong with having sexual urges and wanted to feel pleasure. God gave us a desire to get married and have children someday (unless you're called to be celibate).

The bible makes it clear however that the only proper release of those urges is by having sex with your husband when you're married. Any other release like masturbation, porn, etc. Is lust. Its really really hard especially when you're single and curious, but as Christians we're supposed to give our needs to God. By His strength you can resist entertaining those desires outside of marriage.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to have sex with your husband someday, but its also important to resist temptation.

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So I've been studying the fruits of the spirit, and looked at the Greek bible's word for self-control:

á¼Î³ÎºÏάτεια,n \{eng-krat'-i-ah}

1) self-control (the virtue of one who masters his desires and passions, esp. his sensual appetites)

Initially, I viewed the issue of masturbation as more of a 'gray area', since I do believe that it's possible to participate in it without lustful thoughts, but always felt that it was better to err on the side of 'don't do it'.

Looking at this definition, I realize that there's an intrinsic value to 'mastering' your desires, and that it lines up with the fruit of the spirit. Even if the actual act isn't classified specifically in the bible as a sin, it does show a lack of self control, which we're commanded to develop as believers.

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I hope its okay to post this here

I would really like to get y'all opinion on that. I am a baptist Christian and I get different answers from its okay, its not ok,its natural, its a sin.... so if you do believe in God and that's why you're waiting then what is your stance on masturbation? the bible isn't clear on it. I don't know what to think.

From what I understand, there was a story in the bible named Onan who had intercourse and spilled his sperm on the floor. God ended his life not too long after that. It may have been because marriage was involved and he was not instructed to do that but to actually impregnate the women. Nevertheless, Jesus once told a story about servants that multiplied there talents. One could say we have 7 specific talents correlating to the colors of the rainbow. Of the 7 I will discuss the first 3 which are probably the most important. Theses 3 are power, wisdom and love. Sexual libido is a bio active "electrical (power)" forces that is extracted for the omnipresent orgone field by our DNA. The fractal helix of our DNA acts as an antenna that attracts the bio electric charge then multiplying and accelerates is speed until it breaks the speed of light and this is how or physical corpses are able to express consciousness and natural intelligence. Yet this power is only to be released through love through Christ wisdom from above. When we realese this energy, if it doesn't resonate with the higher vibrational energies of love then it will be come negative energy that can not rise to the higher levels of the universe (in terms of vibration) and be be multiplied. Yet if the energy is release through positive emotions (like joy, peace and gratitude) it can rise in vibrations like helium through air and be multiplied by God. Masturbation is a casting of pearls before swine and a giving of that which is holy unto the Dogs. The energy release cannot be multiplied and thus this energy becomes trapped in the material world as karma (or sin) that needs to be balanced before one can ascend to the heavens. Master nation is all around selfish and is thus a corruption of the root chakra. If it doesn't nothing to enhance all of life then it does nothing to enhance oneself. Christ minded people serve all life and not the ego for that would be anti-Christ. Thus, master nation is inspired from the begining by the forces of this world.

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