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is masturbation a sin?

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I would really like to get y'all opinion on that. I am a baptist Christian and I get different answers from its okay, its not ok,its natural, its a sin.... so if you do believe in God and that's why you're waiting then what is your stance on masturbation? the bible isn't clear on it. I don't know what to think.

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I think it is a sin because it deals with lustful thoughts which the Bible says is adultery.

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I hope its okay to post this here

I would really like to get y'all opinion on that. I am a baptist Christian and I get different answers from its okay, its not ok,its natural, its a sin.... so if you do believe in God and that's why you're waiting then what is your stance on masturbation? the bible isn't clear on it. I don't know what to think.

Well I used to have an iron fist on this topic.." No doubt it's a sin Id never do it!" But since then I've struggled with the true answer to this question. I've come to the conclusion that it's ultimately up to you to decide if it's sinful or not. God never put any specific rule against masturbation in the Bible BUT he specifically said not to have lust in your heart. That being said...ask yourself this.."when you are masturbating are you feeling like you're being brought closer to God?"

Also referring to this verse may help you :)

2 Timothy 2:22 “Run from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love, and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.â€

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This is more or less how I feel about it:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2xkJfGnxBI

 

That said, I believe that there's something to be said about having complete control over your desires.  Even though I don't consider the act itself a sin (the lustful thoughts are), I think it's much better to abstain from it as a whole.

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thanks for all the replies. i guess I kinda knew that but you know how sometimes you try to make something right so you wont feel so you wont feel so guilty about doing it? I guess that is what I was trying to do. there was a time when I didnt do it at all but I let an ex talk me into trying it and it has become a problem. i try praying about it. thanks again

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In Catholicism, we'd class it as a mortal sin, if it's done with full knowledge that it's a sin and full consent (freely choosing to do it). Often though, it becomes a habit, so that lessens the severity of it, since it's not as free a choice any more.

 

It's true that there's nothing in the Bible about it, but I think the argument "If God didn't put it in the Bible, then it must be okay to do" doesn't work. Not every sin can be listed in the Bible because there's just so many of them and so many variations on them. That's why we've got the Church, so we can get answers about issues that perhaps aren't mentioned in the Bible, or situations that aren't very clear-cut.

 

I don't think it actually needs to be spelled out in the Bible, since we can work out for ourselves that it's a sin by referring to Natural Law. Sexual pleasure has a purpose - to strengthen the relationship between husband and wife (and, you could argue, as a kind of incentive to get married, and an incentive to have children). Therefore, any action that would separate sexual pleasure from the sexual act itself would be a sin.

 

But it's a common thing to struggle with. God knows it's difficult. Just ask Him for strength and for His grace, and He'll get you through it. It might take a little while, but just keep going, and don't worry if it seems to be taking longer than you think it should - you get there in the end. And don't beat yourself up about it!

 

xxx

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We all agree that lust is a sin and the purpose of masturbation is to lust. I don't know anyone who masturbates for the purpose of rainbows and unicorns.

 

That's why we've got the Church, so we can get answers about issues that perhaps aren't mentioned in the Bible, or situations that aren't very clear-cut.

 

The Bible doesn't say that it should be written and preached only in Latin. But we know it is a mortal sin if it's not because the Church says so ;)

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I tried to think about tractors or something else when masturbating. (It didn't work). Its impossible to masturbate without lusting. Its also becomes a habit after awhile. I don't recommend it.

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Darn I hope not. Thinking about tractors is a bit weird? Now a Jaguar thats talking.

All the best. Col.

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I'll also add that I only think masturbation is a sin before marriage. Once you are married it's ok to lust after your spouse and 'want' them like that. Mutual Masturbation is also A ok to me once married. I do think it's wrong however if this stands in place of you and your spouse's sex life. (And obviously when porn is involved)

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The Eastern Orthodox Church teaches that masturbation is a grave sin.  Doesn't usually stop me from doing it, though.  =/

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In Islam, it's generally considered a sin except for extreme few cases such as if not doing it would actually make you commit adultery which is even worse.

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Sexual feelings /=/ lust. Me having feelings in my lady bits is not lust. Me having an orgasm is not lust--it's a biological reaction to physical stimuli. Me objectifying someone in my head and dehumanizing that person for my own sexual gratification is lust.

 

What goes on in your heart/mind determines if masturbation is a sin, IMHO. It's entirely possible to have an orgasm without lusting after anyone.

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The motive behind masturbation should be questioned rather than the masturbating itself. Yes it is a sin. But is as big as killing someone or having pre-marital sex? Nope.

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I wrestled with this one for a long time.  My conclusion: masturbation isn't a terrible sin, but it is what i'll call "sin-adjacent."  Like alot of waiters, I have good self-discipline.  I could discipline myself to not masturbate for months at a time, but eventually I'd "fall off the wagon."  I got to know the bible better and I realized, God is pretty specific about the "Thou shall not's."  If God didn't want people to masturbate, he would have told us specifically in the bible (I do not interpret the story of Onan to be relevant to this issue, although some do.)  However, lusting after pornographic images is specifically discouraged (Matthew 5:28) So I made a compromise with myself- no pornography and no fornication, masturbation is okay.  Although there have been some borderline cases, I am happy to say I am keeping to this rule. And I pray for God's mercy and forgiveness if I got this wrong and made a compromise I shouldn't have made.

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This is a gray area for me on this topic. So to think lustful thoughts about someone other than your spouse is adultery. Agreed. This means you can commit adultery before you are married. Now based on this logic is it bad to think lustful thoughts about your future spouse? (not putting a face to your spouse else it defeets the not lusting) {this is easiest to do when not dating someone and not being interested in any one}.

Me having an orgasm is not lust--it's a biological reaction to physical stimuli. Me objectifying someone in my head and dehumanizing that person for my own sexual gratification is lust.

 

What goes on in your heart/mind determines if masturbation is a sin, IMHO. It's entirely possible to have an orgasm without lusting after anyone.

Something like what Belle Femme said above.

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"when you are masturbating are you feeling like you're being brought closer to God?"

 

well I certainly hope not, because that would be awkward and weird. 

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I don't think masturbating is a sin.  I think watching porn while masturbating is.  I also think excessive masturbation is as well.  I think one should only masturbate when their sexual urges are at their peak and you just need relief but not to masturbate just because they want something to do. 

Unfortunately, when a man who excessively masturbates is finally in a relationship, they are more accustomed to their own hand.  A vagina, for example, does not feel like a hand.  So that's why I say to limit it as it can cause ED problems and relationship problems.

 

I'm not sure the problems excessive masturbation for a woman might lead to.  ? 

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I'm not sure the problems excessive masturbation for a woman might lead to.  ? 

 

It can desensitize the clitoris. It's not permanent, though.

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Once again Jegsy shows precise and accurate knowledge of Catholic teaching. I'm impressed.

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Once again Jegsy shows precise and accurate knowledge of Catholic teaching. I'm impressed.

 

Yeah I know. It's sad, isn't it? jk! That's an inside joke :P

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