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7 hours ago, Adam said:

The validity of this thread is worth questioning. 41 pages, over 1000 replies, all about people talking about nothing. Surely this thread cannot be real. It consumes anything and everything, regardless of quality or from whom it comes. Nothing goes in, and nothing comes out. Yet somehow, we remain here. It's as if we do expect something to come, despite the complete futility of it all. This thread too is merciless. Those it captures are damned to toil in obscurity forever. We are its pawns; and it tasks us with chasing after the meaningless and non-existent goal of finding substance in the empty world it contains us in. And for what reason? Nothing. It has no purpose. This thread is nothing, we feed it nothing, it gives us nothing, and finally, we become nothing. The destruction it causes is unrelenting. And there is no escape.

yes.

“All you really need to know for the moment is that the universe is a lot more complicated than you might think, even if you start from a position of thinking it's pretty damn complicated in the first place.” -Douglass Adams

And time is basically the universe. And the universe is basically time.

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7 hours ago, Adam said:

The validity of this thread is worth questioning. 41 pages, over 1000 replies, all about people talking about nothing. Surely this thread cannot be real. It consumes anything and everything, regardless of quality or from whom it comes. Nothing goes in, and nothing comes out. Yet somehow, we remain here. It's as if we do expect something to come, despite the complete futility of it all. This thread too is merciless. Those it captures are damned to toil in obscurity forever. We are its pawns; and it tasks us with chasing after the meaningless and non-existent goal of finding substance in the empty world it contains us in. And for what reason? Nothing. It has no purpose. This thread is nothing, we feed it nothing, it gives us nothing, and finally, we become nothing. The destruction it causes is unrelenting. And there is no escape.

Hahaha. I'm glad you understood me. :D

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8 hours ago, Adam said:

It is indeed a battle we have no chance of winning. The further we look, the further the answers escape us. Every question only leads to a new one. To ponder at all is to invite misery upon one's self. Our struggle will forever be without meaning, and it is foolish to think that anyone can escape this nightmare. Perhaps all we can do is choose not to think. They do say that ignorance is bliss. It is by no means a solution. But it may be the only way to find comfort in this malicious universe

Some  questions are worth finding answers to. But only if their answers are useful. Finding the meaning of life, time, or anything is futile. It will consume one's life for a pointless answer, because the reason for living does not change the fact that one is living. It is useless information, much like this thread. But maybe useless information has a use, and that's a problem worth finding an answer to.

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6 hours ago, Adam said:

And that is just our main struggle in life, isn't it? To find a purpose. We all begin useless, and we are tasked with finding a use for ourselves. To justify our existence, to endlessly pursue the truth, to simply mean something to somebody, perhaps these are what makes us human. We shouldn't distract ourselves with the infinity of the unknown. To do so denies one the opportunity to live. We must live, for it is through living that we innovate, create, change and discover. It is only through living that we may find our place in this vast universe.

Yet, without this struggle we'd be pointless. Because it is our main struggle, and without struggle we get nowhere. It is the struggle that moves us forward and without moving forward we disappear, because  we cannot move backwards no matter how hard we try.

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1 minute ago, Adam said:

To struggle is to be human, and the struggle is very real. Humanity must struggle together. It is only through our mutual suffering that we can strive towards tomorrow.

When one of us fail we all fail, because it is a symptom of our society. This is not to say they are not responsible for their actions and should not be consequenced. But, when one of  succeeds we all succeed. This is not to say they didn't earn it themselves or do not deserve acclaim. However, if we are to move forward we must recognize our collective struggle.

5 minutes ago, Adam said:

And believe me, if I have to suffer, then there is no good reason why everybody else shouldn't. ;)

Yes.

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36 minutes ago, Adam said:

Let's embrace our pain and misery! :D

That's what memes are for. 

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On 8/22/2017 at 10:34 AM, seabutterfly said:

Finding the meaning of life, time, or anything is futile. It will consume one's life for a pointless answer, because the reason for living does not change the fact that one is living. It is useless information, much like this thread.

Hehe. But the meaning of life changes how to live, not whether or not to live.

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28 minutes ago, redgrapes said:

Hehe. But the meaning of life changes how to live, not whether or not to live.

But why would it change how to live? What possible answer would change the way in which you choose to live. Imagine this mice are being used for an experiment (sorry PETA). If they found out what the purpose of the lab was, would it change the way that the experiment went? No, because that would be unnecessary tampering, and the purpose of the lab does not apply to the mice themselves. They wouldn't even comprehend the lab report, because it's so far beyond their realm. The mice are people if you couldn't tell. 

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16 minutes ago, seabutterfly said:

But why would it change how to live? What possible answer would change the way in which you choose to live.

If there is no meaning to life, or the only meaning is "to be happy," then almost everyone elects to live a selfish life of self-gratification, greed, and unrelenting consumption. Yet, if the meaning of life is to live for God, for others, or even righteousness itself, then you potentially have a completely different world. That's why I don't like it when people say there is no meaning or that we are just "specks of dust floating in space;" I think it dehumanizes us.

19 minutes ago, seabutterfly said:

Imagine this mice are being used for an experiment (sorry PETA). If they found out what the purpose of the lab was, would it change the way that the experiment went? No, because that would be unnecessary tampering, and the purpose of the lab does not apply to the mice themselves. They wouldn't even comprehend the lab report, because it's so far beyond their realm. The mice are people if you couldn't tell. 

I think if the mice are people in the analogy, and they know and can comprehend their purpose, then yes it would change the course of the "experiment" because it would alter behavior. I also think in regard to humanity, the purpose is relevant to each individual.

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Oops! :superwaiter: Sorry, I knew you were joking around. I only meant it bothers me when people are quite serious about it and convince others to hold the same belief (like professors to students), as ideas are powerful. Nothing said here was anything like that at all.

I thought your back and forth was really cute and funny. I'm sorry- I didn't mean to ruin the fun. :unsure:

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Ahhhhh this feels like it's gotten out of control. Probably (most definitely) my fault. Sorry @redgrapes and @Adam I didn't mean to say that life is meaningless. I don't believe that. I meant to mean that the meaning of life or this broad and general answer that so many people want, is so complex that we could never verbalize it and finding a one word answer to life is pointless. Not that life is pointless. And I don't know I thought it would be fun to get existential-ly ahhhhh sorry 

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P.s. @Adam you didn't "string me along," I am stupid, but I'm not completely stupid. And I don't feel invalidated, so you're good. 

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Eh I think I'm stupid, but that isn't to say I'm not smart. I once thought somebody was asking me if the moon was backwards. Also we're all idiots compared to ourselves in a couple minutes, weeks, years, etc.

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47 minutes ago, Adam said:

It's okay, you haven't ruined anybody's fun. Although I know how important it is to you to stop other people from having fun, so I'm sorry that hasn't panned out.

Haha. :lol: It could still pan out! Based on the way this thread is going, I have until eternity to destroy happiness and spread my doom and gloom. ;) 

38 minutes ago, seabutterfly said:

Ahhhhh this feels like it's gotten out of control. Probably (most definitely) my fault.

Aww, it's definitely not your fault, seabutterfly! ^_^

Perhaps there is some kind of meme for this situation? :superwaiter:

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Now I know that isn't the best meme to sum up the situation, but I'm tired and I'm not a memelord.

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4 hours ago, Adam said:Well right now, this is what I'm thinking. I hope I'm not alone in this?

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How sinister! Haha, I think it fits.

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@seabutterfly Hahaha. I like it! :D

... I feel like if I "like" one of your self-deprecating posts in which you say you're stupid then I'll be calling you stupid even though you're obviously not. :unsure:

17 hours ago, Adam said:

Oh, how terrifying! It seems your wrath will never cease. I suppose I'll just have to counteract this by continuing to make high quality posts chock-full of thought provoking content. You could never be prepared for the sheer amount of effort I'm going to put into every meaningful post I submit for this illustrious thread!

What an atrocity! I will certainly contact the admins to have you banned or at the very least have your nonsense permanently removed. B)

17 hours ago, Adam said:

Well right now, this is what I'm thinking. I hope I'm not alone in this?

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Uh oh. :superwaiter: Somehow I think I'll be the first target...

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35 minutes ago, redgrapes said:

 I feel like if I "like" one of your self-deprecating posts in which you say you're stupid then I'll be calling you stupid even though you're obviously not. :unsure:

Aww don't, I crave self validation so I would be fine if you liked it because I'd assume you thought it was funny. Also, I try not to be that person who makes self-deprecating jokes so that somebody will tell them the opposite of that. But I understand that I can come off that way. So, I much rather prefer people to laugh at me when I say that or even make a joke back, than say "no, you're perfect." To me it signals a deeper understanding of the person I am, and it's just more fun for the whole group. Also, it makes me feel like "ok maybe they don't perceive me as the attention- seeker I think I'm coming off as." Also @Adam pretty much nailed it haha, I truly am pathetic and just want likes (it's ok everyone, you can like this still).

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3 minutes ago, Adam said:

But I understand now. I'll just have to never compliment you ever again. ;)

But how ever will I live without your praise?!

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Just now, Adam said:

Now there's a thought worth exploring. I really don't know how anyone could live without my approval. The very idea of that is frightening! :(

I know!! Especially since I'm just a young girl on journey to happiness, and you're a man! I really don't think I'm even allowed to survive without your validation. 

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1 minute ago, Adam said:

Hold on, I know you're joking but that might be a bit too touchy of a subject to bring up in this thread. Sorry if I'm being so sudden, but I wouldn't want anybody else to misinterpret what you're saying.

I was just joking about everybody requiring my approval, but it was as if I'm some kind of high-class, well-esteemed marker of greatness. Obviously I'm not, and I was in no way referencing anything to do with gender dynamics.

Gah, sorry if I'm just patronizing you now. I'm sure you already understand, but anybody else who comes in here might not. I wouldn't want to risk letting a playful exchange escalate into something worse.

Oh yeah, I was totally kidding too. I knew what I said was going to be misinterpreted  (sorry). I mean: you horrible mansplainer how dare you?! 

 

Argh now that's probably also going to be misunderstood too. I'm not trying to demean feminism or you, Adam. ahhhhhhhhhhhh 

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1 minute ago, Adam said:

It's cool, I get you. I just worry that someone else won't. I don't even know how to talk about this without potentially invalidating somebody.

Yeah I get it, so let's not because I'd rather not be amid controversy when I really should be asleep in about oh, an hour ago

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