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  1. I have been having a time with this topic in my own life...why I don't go to church myself.  The simple answer is that I believe that I know more that the preachers know or are willing to accept.   Knowing more than a preacher knows is easy if we're talking about a certain Church of God Preacher. But knowing more is more than just simply what info is in the Bible.

    I came across a book by Bart Ehrman in which he asserted that there were books in the Protestant Bible that were Forgeries and not from Paul. So that means that we should not accept certain books as authentically from Paul just like the Protestants don't accept certain books from the Roman Catholic Bible.

    I am comfortable donating money to charities for the poor and not donating to a misguided church. I am also orienting my life to the whole word of GOD and not merely the 7 undisputed letters of Paul.

    Just to take a break here and show how contrary to regular Christiandom I am, how do you think that I would be received were I to go into a church and say that there is no AntiChrist coming. Pretty excluded, huh. How about that 666 as the mark of the beast is made up...Not what you might regularly hear, huh?

    Then I could get into the fact that 501c3 Churches curtail there sermons so that they do not preach politically so they can keep their tax free status.  Ever had a preacher tell you that he can't tell you who you should vote for? It's not because they shouldn't, but that they chose not to in order to keep their tax exempt status.

    Ask yourselves, "How cruel is it for a minister of GOD not to tell you whom to vote for?" Pretty cruel isn't it.

    I have plenty of reasons not to go to a 501c3 church!

  2. No problem here marrying out of my ethnicity. Biblical King David had a ton of non Jewish DNA in him.  I would prefer to marry within my ethnicity at the current time. But I'm sure this might change if there were a hot momma of another ethnicity around. 

    Glad this topic did not say something like, "Would you marry someone of a different race," as there are no different races. Within ethnicities there are commonalities less general than people of further distant ethnicities. 

    I have no problem with people liking whatever ethnicity they like for marriage. I think it's offensive to take issue with what ethnicity you may like over another.

    Lets all agree to parade around the hotties of all ethnicities so that the chilrens' can make an informed decision on what flavor they like. WINK!

  3. On my birth father's side I am a bastard. However the last name cries out British. On my mother's side; Czech, German, Swedish, and Irish. I sold a Toyota Highlander to a Czech Couple. The husband thought that there was a  lot of mental illness in America because there was so much "inter-breeding." He was a practicing psychiatrist. YIKES!

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  4. When I was between 25 and 27 I stiff-armed a potential wife for trivial things and some weird things.

    I'm 37 going on 38 and I just can't help but wonder what would have happened had I pursued a pretty 24-year-old when I was 25. Before I tell the story, I am wondering about things which I would have today that I do not.  I could easily have a sweet sex 2,000 times. Could have had 5 kids easy. Could have had the income of a two parent household to live on. Could have the respectability of being married.   The Biblical Proverb: "He who finds a wife finds a good thing, and obtains favor of the LORD." So favor of the LORD was missed.

    It really boils down to the fact that I thought that I could do much better than her. She wasn't anything to sniff at either. Good looking and had a job, no kids.

    I met her Mom before I met her, her name was Julie. Her mom began sobbing when I introduced myself to her at a church, because her only son (of the same name) committed suicide in the AirForce. Kind of a hard thing to do to a stranger. Her mother to her to the place that I worked, so you know that I met mom's standards. They called me "Huck" So they didn't have to call me Jeremy.

    I didn't like her blue eyes and didn't like her chin, she was too short, and she was too quiet for me.  The quietness was her nerves, but I just was unforgiving in my estimation and evaluation of her.Then one day her mother told me that she woke up every night thinking that spiders were on her. The had taken her to a sleep study to try to figure it out. I thought that was too weird.

    Do not think that I was unaware of faults that I had.  I had thousands in credit card debt and student loan debt. Plus I smoked, and I thought that my future wife deserved better than that.

    FOR THESE REASONS I just never pursued her. Not one date.

    Point of this post is that over 10 yrs ago I could have been happily married to a good looking woman, but I thought I could do better and now I have a dog and a cat, but no prospects on the horizon that make me feel good about myself.

    Anyone in this forum in the same boat?

    Seems like there is always some sleaze hitting on you, but a good woman is hard to find. Thanks.

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  5. In my experience there are slim pickins in church. I have only (mostly) lived in rural-ish areas. Plus, the article doesn't mention anything about the women in church already having any children.

    *The article seemed to present an ideal catch, and a bunch of hapless cowardly men without the whatever to approach her. Hardly the case in my experience.

    I should add here that my experience is only with "Born-Again" churches.

    But the article paints an ideal woman as an example, baiting men to be more courageous.

    I was in a situation where there was only one attractive woman in a small church and there was pressure on me like, "Well your single, and she's single, so get married already whydontcha!" I couldn't get passed this woman's chin. Just couldn't do it. Her chin could kick my chin's ass. Then her mother told me that she wakes up freaking out at night that she thought spider's were crawling on her---> and that she had been to a sleep clinic for it! ...Well let me get down on my knee and propose without further ado, because I want to be married to a woman that wakes me up in terror every friggin' night.

    Where is this woman in that article.

    How about my friend Justin, who almost got pressured by an entire church to marry a woman over 10 years his senior with 3 kids, right after his divorce. People telling him, "I had a dream..." and what not.

    ------>I want to exactly quote the article here to show of the overblown description of an ideal female catch painted:    

    Sweet Erica is sitting next to you in church. She is brilliant, wise, articulate and principled. And you know you’ve noticed her because you notice every brilliant, wise, etc., woman in your circle. They think you don’t notice, but we know better, don’t we?

    You noticed the moment she started her internship at your workplace that she was just wonderful, nice to chat with, attractive, marriage material, the bearer of your progeny, and definitely the one God has sent from on high to satisfy your deepest longing and ...


    *End quote.

    Well guys, aren't the pews just overflowing with such women. All without kids, all without ex-husbands that are going to be YOUR new burden to deal with. All without that ex's family meddling in your business.

    Bogus editorial article in my opinion, and I'll stop here because it's kind of got me riled up, lol!

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  6. I don't happen to find it weird, but I am attracted to women who I believe could kick somebody' ass. I totally think it has to do with wanting a woman that stands up for her family. I want a woman who will protect those kids from kidnappers. A woman who will get in someone's face If they are trying to rip her off.

    I could name famous women's names. But I really remember them if they just seem like someone you wouldn't want to mess with. The opposite of a damsel in distress. Action star women. Milla Jovovich in those zombie movies, Sigourney Weaver in "Aliens 2," Sharon Stone in "Total Recall," and Angela Basset in any dog-gone movie.

    I am a non violent guy, but I kind of have a look of someone you don't mess with, when I'm not smiling - and it's not like I walk around in public smiling. A woman once said (amongst a group of other women) "@$$@# he looks dangerous, I like 'em dangerous!". I had a crazy beard at the time. Most dangerous 36-year-old-virgin this side of the Mississippi! My look and vibe have got me out of some dangerous situations. So if a woman has the same look, or just gives off that sense, I find it a plus. A kidnapper might think, "Well I aint' trying to snag those kids, cause that woman looks like trouble!

    Especially since women don't have the muscle that a man does. Dana Loesch is an example. Like strong, healthy, fighters! 

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  7. 10 hours ago, HeWhoWaits said:

    Scripture says: "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? "

    This, of course, is referring to marriage and I suppose you  could play semantics and say you aren't talking about marriage but only dating but since dating leads to marriage I say not to do it.


    Apparently I am to new to like a post, here, but I concur.

  8. Well, congratulations on the six pack, from a guy who does NOT have a six pack. But I do have an appreciation for those smokin' hot Russian women! I have checked out those type of sites, off and on, for years. Sounds like a  real positive that you go to the gym. I always kid tall guys, "You know, science show tall people have shorter lifespans," which is absolutely true from what I have heard/read for years.

    When I was going to the Army recruiter, there was this just retired major that was in there. He seemed a bit off. But he was talking about how he was going on a trup to Russia to look for a wife. This was in 1997 or 1998. Even then I was like, boy I hear you. When I was in elementary school I learned about Russian mail order brides, and later on, when I saw what hot Russian women looked like I was like, "Well how much is a stamp."

    There is a Russian woman hospitalist here. She is a hot woman, but I know I caught her eye when I was visiting my Grandma. She seemed like she was really tall, but I noticed that she was walking funny. She has about 3-4 inch platform shoes! LOL. Looks totally ridiculous, and she probably only gets away with it because she is so hot. Ridiculous! Couldn't run very fast in those.

    I would also like to marry a virgin. I also appreciate a guy who wants to marry younger.

    Do you know that in Russia, the men's life expectancy is so low because of rampant alcoholism. If you don't drink or smoke, you are ahead of the game. Putin won his first election, in part, to a campaign called, "I need a man like Putin. Because he doesn't drink or smoke. I was wildly popular.

  9. On ‎1‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 1:56 AM, 'tis the Bearded One said:

    But isn't "divorce" only a Biblical option if your partner commits adultery? As far as I know, believers are counselled/commanded against divorcing a non-believing spouse whether or not they married them as non-believers or if they fell from the faith later on. A believer marrying a non-believer is wrong but I don't believe it excuses another wrong (in this situation) ie divorce.

    1 Corinthians 7:39 guides me: "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

  10. On ‎1‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 0:05 AM, 'tis the Bearded One said:

    Quote from 

    I had written out a reply before but for some reason it didn't post :( 

    I wouldn't describe the ceremony/reception as putting on a show. Its *supposed* to be a celebration with friends and family. I for one, however quaint/small my wedding may be certainly would want it [and the subsequent consummation] associated with the entering into marriage life-point. Rather than a however-grand-or-not engagement inquiry followed by a rush to the nearest place for consummation [would you be exchanging vows at your engagement??]. Unless everyone had notice (which in effect would be kind of like an engagement) I think I'd have some struggles respecting someone who treated my daughter/entered my family in that way. I see the allure of having a wedding after one has been effectively married for some time but when couples live together and pragmatically are already married in everything but profession, I think it draws away from the specialness of the wedding/marriage ceremony. Sometimes its like there will literally be nothing different before and after their wedding except (perhaps) for a public profession since they can already be married de facto. One other thing is that now they're "officially married" and whatever psychological change that may induce - I know someone who took years to get married after their first child together because of some notion that things will get bad if she gets married for real. And another who is stuck in effectively married life waiting to be proposed to. Smh

    So what if they know you're a virgin? You are *supposed* to be one at your wedding [or at least at some point of it depending on the tradition/culture]. You being a virgin at your wedding is itself a testimony. 

    Are you equating getting engaged with being married? To me there is an important distinction between the two. "Let your yeah be yeah" refers to not swearing an oath honesty/commitment on God/temple/whatever. If we hold to the commandment requiring honesty it shouldn't make a squat of difference whether we've sworn an oath or not as to whether we will tell the truth etc. That doesn't draw away from the wisdom of putting agreements into writing and with signature. If you see getting engaged as being a promise to marry then you might argue that once the promise is given (and on the assumption that this promise is absolutely irrevocable) you are effectively married. Nonetheless, "I absolutely promise to marry you" is not "I am married to you". "I absolutely promise to pay you $50" is not the same as "I have paid you $50". I tend to see engagement as the mutual expression of an intention/willingness/desire to get married. 

    While I don't agree with long engagements, I do consider the engagement period very important. It is there to discuss or further discuss issues you would only discuss with someone you have exchanged an intention/commitment to marry. If anything, it gives a space for pre-marital counselling and family/friends perhaps giving extra guidance towards the next stage in the relationship. I don't think may boy/girlfriends would want their relationship to be treated in a way that their engagement will be the same as their marriage. Imagine taking your boy/girlfriend to pre-marital counselling before even asking them if they wanted to marry you!

    As far as a sexless engagement period being an unreasonable "hoop"... Depending on your view, marriage is one of the biggest commitments and liability that you can take, it is for life; they will become the single most influential person in your life for better or worse. The engagement period is not for her - it is for both of you and the good of the marriage. I expect to be mutually jumping though "hoops"! Jump! Jump! Jump! :lol: And some hoops may be on FIRE :o "This hoop is on fire" *cough* :superwaiter: I would have severe reservations with someone who had the impatience or simply did not value that period enough so as to skip it altogether. I don't want to be harsh but....If you couldn't "put up with" the hoop of a 3 month or even a day-long sexless engagement period then I think that either the lady in question is not worth waiting for (from your perspective) or you are not worth not waiting for (on the basis of the rationale given). *way to welcome the newbie, Bearded, jeez!*

    Until we have exchanged vows entering into the marital covenant and (arguably) consummated, my partner-to-be is absolutely free to walk away at any point for whatever reason. People wait differently. I am waiting till marriage not waiting till engagement. I think the concept that engagement = marriage is rather hazardous especially considering that engagement is generally considered a less serious commitment than marriage. Similar to those ------ who preach having sex with someone means you are now married to them! Argh! 

    As far as Isaac and Rebekah are concerned. Her agreeing to go may have signalled an engagement but I think there is enough evidence to state that it did not signal her marriage. When she first sees him she puts on her veil - if they were husband and wife I don't think it would have been appropriate or not worth mentioning. There is no indication of how much time passed between their first meeting and Isaac taking her into his mothers tent and marrying her. I'd say there would have at least been a celebration beforehand which would have taken at least a little while to prepare for. I also like to believe Isaac would have been the kind of young man not to get sexual with his bride to be straight after a month long journey on camel before getting to know her a little. The Bible also notes that he married her in his mother's tent. It did NOT occur at her agreeing to marry him (or to be technical, go with Abraham's servant) back in her home town.

    Hope I didn't scare you from the forum. The topic got you excited. Your post got me excited. :D 

    Whoah. Alright.

    You seem to be focused on the second sentence from this part of my post: "Yes I'll marry you and then off to the nearest hotel, motel, or private room. She says "yes," that = man and wife, period." Because you said, "Are you equating getting engaged with being married?"

    I am to used to writing in TWEETS, so I'll clarify what I meant when I typed  the "=." It just means that nothing more is needed to seal the deal.

    I am equating her saying, "Yes" to us being pronounced man and wife, like a minister commonly does at a wedding ceremony, but the deal is STILL not sealed until they to have sex.

    The short answer to your question is NO. I thought I'd put some more points out there, too.

    1. First of all the Bible doesn't give place for any ceremony between Gen 24:66, “And the servant told Isaac all things that he had done.” and Gen 24:67, “And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.”      

    You argument reminds me of a kind of certain creationist argument for gaps in the Genesis creation account. So here it is put together:

    “And the servant told Isaac all things that he had done. And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.”

    Now, YOU may put a waiting period in there, or argue she shaved her legs after the long trip first, or a year passed in that tent when Rebekah was not permitted to leave. But it is clear to me that it plainly says EXACTLY what is says.

    2. The following: "...and [TOOK] Rebekah, and she [became] his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.”

    ----->Did the 'TOOKING' come before she became his wife in that BIBLE verse, OR does it say, "...she became his wife, and then he took her."

    Plain right their that he "took" and "she became his wife." If she ain't 'took' she ain't his wife, so I will clarify my point.

    I believe that unless she's "took," she is not his wife. That means that she is not his wife when some paid minister makes it legal in the eyes of man, she becomes his wife when the deal is sealed in the marriage bed, or whereever. That is my position. Being 'pronounced' husband and wife isn't the same as being "pronounced and the deal is sealed in bed." 

    When did Isaac ask her to be his wife, at all, in the reading? It is simply not even there. Maybe he just started undressing her - we have no record that he spoke words asking her to be his wife. None at all.

    I guess I see an affirmative answer to the question of "will you marry," as that they are "pronounced." Rebekah had agreed back at her home to go knowing what she was agreeing to be. He family WANTED to celebrate, but the servant she left with the servant the next morning. So I see Rebekah as "pronounced" Mrs. Isaac when she was back with her family. So if I or any of the other countless Christian guys who have done so over the centuries, wisk her straight way to the proverbial "mother's tent" and take her, I have good Biblical grounds for doing so.

    I attended a church in New Mexico, but I left it about the time the pastor began requiring 6MONTHS of counseling before he would marry anybody. I don't see the point, why 6 months? Why wasn't it 22 months and 17 days. It's all nonsense.

    I encounter dilemmas all the time, and I don't get to pause time and go have 6 months of counseling with some minister before I can un-pause time and make a decision.

    Makes me remember how the antichrist is supposed to weary the saints. Daniel 7:25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

    You are introducing "times and laws" where there needn't be any, and where no timed requirement is given in the bible. And 6 months WOULD SURE WEARY ME. If she pulled that on me, and say well you and the pastor can go have counselling for 6 months, I'll be out there looking for a different woman.

    I sold cars for a living, and I have a phrase that I like to say, "It should only take as long a it needs to take." I.E.: a 30 minute surgery shouldn't take 12 hours, and a 12 hour surgery shouldn't take 30 minutes.

    I am way grown. I have made many deals. The; deals, arrangements, expectations should all be settled in courting.

    Before this gets too long, I see her saying that she will marry me kind of as how someone might see the minister pronouncing a man and woman wife. The pronouncement has been made! - Next comes the "tooking!" Where she BECOMES my wife. I am not going to hang around waiting for the "tooking" for 6 months talking with some preacher guy or gal who might make the whole thing Awkward. When I ask, my question, it won't necessarily include a six months time frame before the "tooking" takes place.

    Yes, before the marriage is sealed in bed, she is totally free to go, and we would never be man or wife. There would be no reason for divorce.

    When I did sell cars, and the shopper agreed to buy, I didn't say, "Well, buddy, now go talk to my manager for 6 months about; the responsibility of owning a car, safe driving methods, and preventative maintenance, etc. - I GOT HIM TO SEAL THE DEAL!

    THANK GOD, that when God saved me when I believed the gospel, he instantly set the seal of the Holy Spirit on me, and didn't wait 6 months for me to learn what I might face - the whole while me not being saved.

    God was a man of action when he saved me, Isaac was a man of action, and I am a man of action too. So I hope I've clarified what I was getting at. No, I don't believe when a woman says "yes" to marry me that we are instantly husband and wife, but we are definitely pronounced. And I won't be a ditherer in that situation. LOL!

    Glad God didn't make me physically sign a sheet of paper in order to be saved, I just believed the gospel, and he came in. I might have died before I signed it, and wound up in hell.

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  11. Divorce- I really only believe in it for infidelity.

    Abortion- I am pro-life. I am a bastard, and my mother could of had an abortion. I am against abortion in all cases. When a woman's life is on the line, you treat the woman, regardless of what happens to the child.

    Children- since I was young I wanted a little tribe. I come from a family of 4, but 3 were only ever in the same house at the same time. But now I am not as sure as I used to be. Trump's election makes it seem more reasonable. If HRC had one, I think that it might just of been best to hold off on kids.

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  12. I might ask a woman out on a who was a non-Christian, but only to find out whether she was a born-again Christian. My goal for marriage is to marry a Born-Again Christian woman. Not only would I only seriously date a Christian, she would have to be a Born-Again Christian. Some things in the New Testament are just ingrained in my brain. Were I to sin, and seriously date and then marry a non Born-Again Christian, I would probably repent later, and than divorce that woman, and be in the clear salvationally speaking - but WHAT A MESS that would be.



  13. I believe in only condoms and being snipped. However, should I ever chose to be snipped, I will have some of my guys cryogenically frozen. Probably at a couple of different facilities, because I'm kind of a prepper anyway so I definitely would be with potential future generations. Actually, there is some research that the older the man is who produces the sperm, the greater chance for the offspring to be susceptible to certain ailments, thinking specifically of schizophrenia.

  14. Really like seeing what the principles were, then BAM it's Mark Driscoll!

    Lot of controversy regarding this man ~ charges of being abusive (not sexually) to members of his church. His way or the highway, you either agree down the line or are booted out his church (sometimes without an reason given). He is a Calvinist also, fyi.

  15. 1: No

    2: No

    3: No

    On two, maybe three occasions guys have offered to pay for me to get a tattoo if I would get one. Tattoo and piercing free here. The worst are the "in memorium" tattoos. I don't want to be intimate with a tombstone.

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  16. "I was There When It Happened." Favorite Born-Again Christian song. I was there when I was saved, I remember it precisely, and no one told me I was saved, God gave me a true born again experience. First time I had ever heard the gospel. Age ~6. Took about three minutes for the guy to lay out the gospel in the invocation to a service. No invitation, I just believed it. YouTube of it: