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  1. I was just wondering what people though about the practice of genetically modifying babies. If you got your unborn baby screened and found that it had a gene consistent with alcoholism would you want to change it? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9480372/Genetically-engineering-ethical-babies-is-a-moral-obligation-says-Oxford-professor.html
  2. That's a very broad and absolute definition of bad. Locking a criminal in prison causes them emotional pain (being separated from loved ones etc) but that doesn't make locking them up bad.
  3. If everyone in a community condemns someone for doing something, it becomes morally wrong. So as the attitudes of the majority change, so does what is considered morally wrong. For example nowadays we say that having sex with a 13 year old is wrong. If you did it you would be condemned and sent to prison. However hundreds of years ago most girls got married at 12-14 and it was considered perfectly acceptable to have sex at that age. It also used to be considered morally right to stone a woman to death if she committed adultery. Social attitudes have changed though, and now if you did that you would be cast out as a morally bankrupt murderer. A more recent example is racism. Only half a century ago racism was considered acceptable. In the US morally upright people routinely discriminated against non-whites through segregation. In colonial Africa the prevailing attitude was 'the Africans are like children, they can't do it themselves we must rule over them and do it for them'. Today however most people in the West would consider racism as morally wrong. Who knows how attitudes are going to change over the next 50 or 100 years and what is going to be morally right and wrong then? I think one of the big issues is going to be to do with genetically modifying babies. Then who is it that defines what is good and what is evil? What is the absolute moral code?
  4. About the Nazis, I think that was an extension of the good and evil point. That to say something is evil requires there to be a moral law (and therefore a moral law giver) to differentiate it from good. I don't think that there is an absolute moral scale; morals are just the prevailing attitude of a community. The Nazis are evil because the vast majority of people in society say so.
  5. There isn't hardcore solid proof that magic unicorns don't exist either. I read that article and disagree with the bit where it said that atheists are making a negative existential position. Atheists are simply rejecting the religious existential position due to lack of evidence. I suppose I don't speak for all atheists, maybe some of them believe other stuff. My default position is that something does not exist until there's evidence indicating that it does (or at least might) exist. incidentally, I didn't believe in narwhals until I was 15 and saw a video. Before then I thought they were a myth lol I was so shocked.
  6. I didn't mean to be harsh, I just meant that faith is based on something that can't be proved. There are many things that we don't understand through reason, and faith is relying on things revealed by God without factual evidence to back it up.
  7. I wouldn't like my parents that involved in my life. I don't particularly like how public that ceremony thing was, decisions about sex are private, why would you want a bunch of photographers snapping pics and publishing them? I may be a bit biased on that because I generally don't like pageantry or attention... I just wonder what those fathers are going to say if when their daughters get a bit older they throw away the ring and decide that WTM is not for them...
  8. People of the same culture will tend to have more in common, and have similar values. Although in today's globalised world two people may come from very different countries yet be fairly similar because they've had a similar upbringing. I find that I often have more in common with people from other countries than people who live down the street from me.
  9. I've seen people arguing about whether or not God exists, but it's really rather pointless. The atheist is thinking purely in terms of what can be conclusively proved, whereas the theist is thinking in terms of blind faith. When dealing with things rationally the burden of proof is on the person saying that something does exist. For example if I said that unicorns exist, it's rational not to believe me until I show you one. However faith is not evidence based; it's not really something that you decide whether or not to have. It's just something that you believe without proof.
  10. I'm not American and so won't be voting. If I were though I'd vote Obama. Romney seems to flip-flop rather a lot. Most notably now he's running for president and needs conservative support he's very anti-universal healthcare, but when he needed the more liberal votes in Massachusetts for his Governorship election he seemed more than happy to sign in a very similar healthcare package to Obamacare. The main issue for me, and one which is very rarely brought up in political debates, is party funding. You talk about people being made into slaves to the government, but who is running the government? Both parties rely on massive corporate donations in order to win elections; you simply cannot with without spending hundreds of millions of dollars. There's no such things as a free lunch, all of those major donors are going to want to influence the government for their own ends.
  11. Same. Only one person (other than me) I know from university it still a virgin. And they aren't waiting, they're just shy.
  12. Possible deal-breaker??

    It would depend on the sports really. Most would be ok, in fact it might help me get more exercise by joining in but I would prefer if she didn't play stuff like rugby or lacrosse. I wouldn't want to look at her and be envious of her bulked biceps... Just watching those kind of sports (American football etc) I wouldn't mind though.
  13. Singles?

    There's also the https://wewaited.com/ dating site for virgins which is listed on this site. I've not joined though, so I don't know what it's like.
  14. Spoiled/Spoilt Children

    I think it's important to instead of just buying stuff for them make them do chores in exchange for pocket money (allowance?) which they then spend. That way they learn the value of objects, and also it instils the idea of having to work to get what you want. I'd also encourage my kids to get little jobs (paper rounds etc) so soon as possible.
  15. I disagree with this idea of moral absolutes. Although it's nice to think that they are there you only have to look back over history to see them changing. Condoning/promoting child sex is considered morally indefensible in most societies today, but it's not always been this way. At the time of Christ it was common Jewish custom for girls to get married between 12 and 14, and was considered morally proper. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/virginmary_1.shtml Later Rabbinic sources tell us that Jewish girls could be betrothed as early as 12 years and a day or any time after the age of twelve and a half. http://christian.families.com/blog/betrothal-and-wedding-customs-at-the-time-of-christ Young men and women were pledged to each other at ages as young as twelve or thirteen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(mother_of_Jesus) In keeping with Jewish custom, the betrothal would have taken place when she was around 12, and the birth of Jesus about a year later.[5] Morals are simply an expression of the prevailing social norms in a society. As society has changed so have morals, and since society is always changing so will morals.