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  1. WTM.org. What you love and will miss about the site?

    And a question: Somebody posted a link to a copy of this website. Like an internet archive. I can´t find it anymore and don´t know who posted it. Can anybody please post that link again? Would be cool to have a place where you can still go through the website, even though "the real thing" is actually gone.
  2. WTM.org. What you love and will miss about the site?

    I will miss this site very much. When I first discovered this site, I was so happy that I have found like-minded people (although I have found out over time that there are VERY different kinds of WTMers). It was interesting to get into conversations and discussions, to see other perspectives and opinions and thoughts. I enjoyed writing about so many different topics and "meet" new people on here. I also loved the helping and advice-giving aspect of this site. Although this site has been "dead" for quite some time now (which was a bummer), it was really sad to see the information that this site will be closed for good. I found out about it a couple days after Mike was posting the information. I was just checking out if something new happened on this site and then I saw Mike´s post in the forums. Thanks all the same, Syzygy (sorry, it doesn´t work to mark up names somehow) for the information message! Thought about doing something like that, as well. But I guess, you were faster ;-) Thank you, Queen, for establishing a new place for this community! I will check it out. And thanks, Mike, for making up this site all those years ago. And thanks for writing your book! I might come around this website before it closes. And I definitely need to bookmark the other available platforms for this community. I´m just really sad this site will be taken down. Another thing I really enjoyed were the articles! So I will miss them. Well, actually I do miss them for quite some while. I think, the last article has been written in 2016. Altogether I will miss this whole dynamic on here, we used to have. And I will miss the introduction posts of new members. Another thing I really loved about this site was the openness for people of all walks of life. For non-religious people and religious people, for atheists, agnostics, for everyone. It has not been a religious site, but very welcoming for everybody. This has been a very, VERY essential aspect of why I even registered on here all those years ago. I also liked that it brought people together from all over the world. Although it also could be a bummer, when you met someone on here you found friendly and interesting (even just as friends), and then you found out that the person lives on the other half of the globe. Another thing I found really interesting, were the posts from married waiters. Loved to here their thoughts and experiences "on the other side". In addition, this site definitely has been a very nice practice in the English language for me, since English is not my native language. I hope, this community will live on somehow. It has been a very cool experience. Thank you.
  3. How is this Site STILL standing?

    Hello everybody, just wanted to say Hi, I guess. I wasn´t able to log into the site for quite some time. The site didn´t let me. Today, I tried again after a very long time and it worked miraculously. Why isn´t Mike doing anything to maintain and "foster" the site anymore? He always said wtm.org is one of his "precious websites"...I hope nothing bad happened to him :-/ It´s good to see some old faces around here :-) Why do you think this would be a good idea? Just asking out of curiosity. Good to see you, by the way, Francois :-) I´m with Syzygy, though. Archiving the site so it´s only "read only content" is the last thing I would want for wtm.org!
  4. Thanks for sharing and being open and honest about your experiences and what it has done to you. True, kids can be cruel and scar you for a lifetime. You definitely have my compassion. You are not alone, though. Research ("The nature of prejudice" by G.W. Allport) on the causes and transmission of prejudice suggests that when an individual has a negative experience with a member of a group as part of routine everyday encounters (in your case "the female group"), this moment is often mobilized to produce and justify powerful negative generalizations about the whole population that the individual is seen to represent (in your case "the female population") (Information from "Living with difference" by G. Valentine) So I am sure, you can work towards solving those issues, if you want to. I know, easier said than done like always. And "misery loves company" is a...well....way too miserable motto to live one´s life by, don´t you think? All the best!
  5. Your pleasure = Spouse's responsibility?

    @'tis the Bearded One Thanks for the article. If you go to bible studies, though (like the ex girlfriend, for example), doesn´t it mean that you are looking into the subject and the Bible? How can you go to bible studies and not live a bible-based life (or at least make an effort to do so)? Isn´t that a contradiction? I think, if someone goes to bible studies (voluntary and not forced by someone else), they are actually interested in the Bible, aren´t they? The article talks about how Christians aren´t that interested anymore in church service, and serious prayer and the Bible. But the girlfriend seemed like the exact opposite. Very involved, even doing mission trips! I also know some people who are very involved in church, some even taking leaderships in church. Yet, they would never wait and think it is not desirable. I have trouble understanding that, honestly. Some say, that it is purely Interpretation and that nowhere in the Bible it is clearly stated that you should wait until marriage to have sex. So they don´t. This whole topic reminds me of this video. It is meant to be comedy and not serious, but I think, it has a lot of truth in it, especially for the younger generation.
  6. Aaah, of course! Needed some time to catch up on that
  7. Yes, to all non-virgins here: don´t feel excluded!!! But what double meaning does "Virgin Therapists" imply? It´s therapists that are virgin....or do you mean the star sign as the double meaning? Haha, sorry, I am obviously missing something here. "Waiter Therapists" does have a double meaning, too, though. Waiter as in "waiting till marriage" and Waiter as in the profession (waiter/waitress). Haha. Okay, that was not that funny
  8. @Naturally What I forgot earlier....Was it you, who complemented the title of this thread and another thread with the introduction "Virgin Therapists"? (I don´t know if only the person who started the thread can change the title later) Although, we have a lot of non-virgin waiters here who, of course, are more than welcome to give their opinions, the title is funny Sounds like a TV-series or something similiar...
  9. Sure. I think there are aspects in the control of a husband which impact the wife´s womanhood, self-esteem, mental health, feelings of love and almost every aspect of life. Absolutely. Yes, you can ask the exact same question. For some women it might be related to sex, for some not. Who said it is bad when it is sex instead of something else? I am afraid I don´t understand what you are trying to say here ... What "upcroppings of overly prudish culture"? What culture are you talking about? Well, I don´t think that a man is an animal for wanting sex....and I don´t think sex is bad. Rather quite the contrary. Sorry, I can´t follow you here. Makes sense and I agree. Thanks. Keep the book recommendations coming Agreed.
  10. @Dave1985 Thanks for your answer! I am not quite sure what to say. It sounded quite...pessimistic. I am not actually miserable on a daily basis. Just have sad moments/days where I am questioning this whole WTM-thing and feeling very down and lonely, because I seem to be the only one with this idea (in my real social environment, I mean). But I guess, every waiter has his/hers ups and downs and sometimes wanting to throw in the towel. If you don´t mind me asking...how come you seem so negative regarding women and marriage? If I would hear about "the female human being" for the very first time just by reading some of your posts, I would think, that women are some evil, malicious and ruthless creatures with mean intentions just on earth to destroy men and suck every ounce of happiness out of them while exploiting them in almost every area of their lives. I don´t deny that women like that do not exist. But good news is: There are kind, loving women with good intentions, as well. Women who would be passionate about making their man happy. So....you can still find happiness, is what I am trying to say.
  11. Three religions. One house.

    @Revan Why odd? The holy rooms will be separated. So Jews pray in the synagogue, Muslims in the mosque and Christians in the church. It is all separated. Just to make it clear again.
  12. Your pleasure = Spouse's responsibility?

    Thank you so much! I´m just a lifelong learner interested in opinions and experiences from other people I appreciate your openness and willingness to share your thoughts and insights here. Yes, you are reading my question correctly! Very interesting! Did you ever talk with her about this issue (that you would like to get more attention for your needs etc.) outside of bed? Or was it always only "in the moment" when you confronted her with a "wish" and then she proceeded to do it, but with an unpleasant attitude like you mentioned? I mean, did you ever had talks abou sex? And if so, what did she had to say about that? Or was the "God´s gift to men" the only reason she ever mentioned? 100 % agreed. It´s not what you say, but how you say it... Sure. No worries, to me you didn´t sound like ex bashing. Thanks, that´s heartening. But well....you also consider yourself to be a good and passionate giver...and it still didn´t work out. So I am actually still worried to find out that my man is an absolute asshole in bed.... To me it sounds so paradox, as well. A kind and loving and caring person and then so selfish and careless in bed only focusing on one´s own needs. Did you ever hear about a reversed case? When the person is very selfish, arrogant, careless, inconsiderate [insert any negative trait you like] in every day life and other areas in life, but is absolutely a passionate, good giver in bed? Not the answer I hoped for, but thanks for your honesty And how do you think you can best mitigate these risks? Why would you personally be even okay with taking these risks by (maybe) waiting til marriage the next time? Why especially for women? What about the waiting men? Where is the difference here? Also can I ask you another question a bit out of context? You don´t have to answer, if it´s too personal or if you don´t want to, of course. I am wondering about your ex girlfriend... She seemed very religious and very engaged in church. I mean, bible studies, mission trips, church choir. She even termed body parts of her "God´s gift to men". One might think, that a person like her would be interested in waiting until marriage to do the deed. Do you know why she didn´t want to wait? Was waiting EVER in the talks? I am not negatively judging here (my waiting isn´t motivated by religion). I guess, I am just wondering and always have a bit of trouble understanding those very religiously involved people, but still they don´t find waiting worthwile and desirable. Thanks for the talk!
  13. I'm new and FINALLY got signed up!!

    No worries! I find it incredibly kind of you that you are interested in those problems, even though you are not an admin. So thank you very much! I appreciate it! Yes, maybe @Invincible or some other admin can help. Wasn´t the case in the past, though. But I will try again.
  14. I'm new and FINALLY got signed up!!

    @StarGate SG1 I agree with everything you said and couldn´t say it any better. I guess, that some people are more able than other people to question things (due to very different reasons). Also: It is definitely due to cultural standards what is seen as attractive and non-attractive. In some Asian regions corpulent women are seen as the most attractive kind of women (sorry, I can´t remember the specific places). Or many Japanese women find corpulent men very attractive and like big bellies....(it´s due to the `otherness` since the majority of Japanese people are thin). However, it is interesting to see how culture is influencing people in their thinking, doing and living. I don´t know what´s so bad. True. The person´s attitude is key.
  15. Three religions. One house.

    Oh, don´t worry You made it clear. I am just not sure yet, what I should think about this One World Religion... But thanks again for your input!